Honestly - I don’t follow silver now, or put value on anything he says. Math - data analysis is supposed to be impartial. And he’s anything but. How can anyone trust his numbers when he clearly vocalizes his biases.
For the record , Rosenberg never stated harris would absolutely win. I listened to him , read his stack throughout the campaign . He ALWAYS stated it would be tight - always. And he did give accolades to Harris and her campaign for how well run it was- Rosenberg was not the only person noting that , btw, ppl with experience running campaigns were noting it- bc it was exceptional.
Everyone is HOPEFUL their candidate wins. It would seem that silver strives to have democrats feel so defeated that they throw in the towel and don’t even try… kinda like behavior tim Snyder warns us against. That said, silver seems to be operating as part of the levers of nascent authoritarianism- why believe anything he says?
Yes, exactly. Silver thinks there is something intrinsically wrong about being positive and hopeful about your chances of winning when the polling is tight (the right was doing the same damn thing). There was never any "ignoring of the polls at their peril". It's just a construct Silver invented in order to feel superior, which he obviously does.
I was a dedicated reader of 538 for years, starting before the 2008 election (which they nailed). Not just politics but sports, pop culture, etc. After ABC laid everyone off that site went into the shitter, and Silver realized he was free to be his worst self. So I don’t follow either any more. Instead I fill the void with hopeful left-leaning Substack content. I think it’s better.
I love this. Who won the 2012 election? Nate Silver? I have become increasingly uninterested and/or simply grossed-out by him since then. He's part of the institutional problem. Blech. Nice job, TATG!
Nate can be supremely annoying and at times, an outright dick, but I don't see him as an enemy to Democrats. He wanted Harris to win, and he ended up being right when he first questioned Biden running again in the fall of 2023. Almost no one, myself included, was asking the hard questions about Biden a full year before the election, but in hindsight, I wish that as a party, we had been. :(
We don't see eye to eye on this, and that's okay. But we do agree that Nate can be supremely annoying and an outright dick. And I don't necessarily see him as an enemy to Democrats. He's mostly just selfishly nihilistic, out to prove to himself and everyone else that he's edgy and smart. But really, he's just a dick and likes to see the left feel bad for some reason.
Honestly - I don’t follow silver now, or put value on anything he says. Math - data analysis is supposed to be impartial. And he’s anything but. How can anyone trust his numbers when he clearly vocalizes his biases.
For the record , Rosenberg never stated harris would absolutely win. I listened to him , read his stack throughout the campaign . He ALWAYS stated it would be tight - always. And he did give accolades to Harris and her campaign for how well run it was- Rosenberg was not the only person noting that , btw, ppl with experience running campaigns were noting it- bc it was exceptional.
Everyone is HOPEFUL their candidate wins. It would seem that silver strives to have democrats feel so defeated that they throw in the towel and don’t even try… kinda like behavior tim Snyder warns us against. That said, silver seems to be operating as part of the levers of nascent authoritarianism- why believe anything he says?
Yes, exactly. Silver thinks there is something intrinsically wrong about being positive and hopeful about your chances of winning when the polling is tight (the right was doing the same damn thing). There was never any "ignoring of the polls at their peril". It's just a construct Silver invented in order to feel superior, which he obviously does.
I was a dedicated reader of 538 for years, starting before the 2008 election (which they nailed). Not just politics but sports, pop culture, etc. After ABC laid everyone off that site went into the shitter, and Silver realized he was free to be his worst self. So I don’t follow either any more. Instead I fill the void with hopeful left-leaning Substack content. I think it’s better.
He is a pompous and petty person.
I love this. Who won the 2012 election? Nate Silver? I have become increasingly uninterested and/or simply grossed-out by him since then. He's part of the institutional problem. Blech. Nice job, TATG!
Nate can be supremely annoying and at times, an outright dick, but I don't see him as an enemy to Democrats. He wanted Harris to win, and he ended up being right when he first questioned Biden running again in the fall of 2023. Almost no one, myself included, was asking the hard questions about Biden a full year before the election, but in hindsight, I wish that as a party, we had been. :(
We don't see eye to eye on this, and that's okay. But we do agree that Nate can be supremely annoying and an outright dick. And I don't necessarily see him as an enemy to Democrats. He's mostly just selfishly nihilistic, out to prove to himself and everyone else that he's edgy and smart. But really, he's just a dick and likes to see the left feel bad for some reason.
Nate Silver is irrelevant. The best thing to do is marginalize and ignore him.